From @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Tue Oct 3 13:01:12 2000 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by gem.win.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA13082 for notator-list; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 13:01:12 +1300 Received: from mail2.rdc2.ab.home.com (mail2.rdc2.ab.home.com [24.64.2.49]) by gem.win.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13079 for <@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@>; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 13:01:06 +1300 Received: from home.com ([24.67.98.22]) by mail2.rdc2.ab.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with ESMTP id <@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@> for <@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@>; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 17:03:56 -0700 Message-ID: <@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@> Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 09:37:02 -0600 From: Amy Macdonald <@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Subject: [NSL] Re: [Notator] converting .SON files to Win 98?... References: <001b01bebfe8$00545fc0$370540d4@b7y5w6> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Precedence: bulk Reply-To: @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ X-header: -------------------------------------------------------- X-header: Unsubscribe : @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ X-header: Notator WWW : http://www.crosswinds.net/~notator/ X-header: List problems: @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ X-header: -------------------------------------------------------- [Notator/Creator SL mailing list] Mario Walzberg....I finally found your posting but since it is dated June 1999, it took some searching - this was after I posted earlier to the Notator list (after reading today's reply-posting by Vance Lindich to your question) and I now have a clearer picture of what your problem is...... Since you have no Atari at all but you have a bunch of Atari disks with Notator "SON" files, it is pointless to even try to read them into your PC....there is no program for the PC that will read the SON files...... 1. If you wish to read them into some midi program on the PC, the files will have to be converted to MIDI first by - Notator and an Atari computer............. 2. Notator is free for the downloading from Hallvard's web, but without the dongle of course, which is a small piece of hardware.......You would have to try to find an Atari (even the 1/2-meg Atari will do I believe) and a copy of Notator with dongle. Then your old disks will work.....No matter which way you go, that is the first and foremost requirement - an Atari!! 3. Otherwise, you might do a search for GEMULATOR and download the free version - I believe it will read Atari formatted disks........."Gem98" I believe is the program....check the URL at: "GEMULATOR" will set up an Atari Desktop when you install it on the PC - I believe the docs that come with it will tell you if you can read in the Atari disks - and I believe this means the old Atari formatted disks......however, there is no provision for Midi programs in Gemulator.....(if enough of us contact the GEMULATOR authors, perhaps they might consider it - but where Notator is concerned, there is still the problem of the dongle because Notator will not run without it).....After you install GEMULATOR on your PC (I don't know what Windows 98 will do - I have Windows 95)..........what you might do is copy the input SON files onto the hard drive and then copy them onto IBM formatted 720 mb DD/SS disks........after which you will still need an Atari and Notator S/L, since the files are all SON (Notator) files.....unless you e-mail them as below..... 4. Years ago - when I first bought NOTATOR - I needed to convert some 27 EZScore Plus files (each file a separate instrument) into a midi file so that I could read it into NOTATOR in order to produce a Conductor's hard copy of the arrangement....(EZScore didn't save to Midi)..... We hooked my Atari ST (the 540 I believe) and a PC together, played (and recorded) all the files into the PC's Band-In-A-Box (we had to do some work on the files in BB afterwards), then we played and/or copied the Midi file back thru and into the Atari......which I subsequently got into Notator and created my hard-copy score. This we did with an old 386 PC. It was such a long time ago - probably 12 years ago or so. But it worked! One could conceivably do the same with your SON files (but here again you would need an Atari and Notator to play the files). With some of today's PC programs, perhaps you could simply play the SON files into one of those programs (any WAV program?), record the song, save as a WAV file and read the WAV file into one of your PC midi programs...... 5. Another alternative is to get any working Atari with internet capabilities (I'm sure all the software is free by now)........then send some of your SON files as attachments to an e-mail and we can convert them to MIDI for you and send them back via e-mail. Here you can read the disks but do not need Notator....... 6. Other than that, I don't know what to say - there is no way to access the SON files without Atari and Notator.......or an Atari and the Internet......UNLESS, in GEMULATOR and the PC you are able to copy and save the SON files, and send them via e-mail and the PC to an Atari/Notator user to convert them to Midi for you...... Just remember, - you will lose all editing symbols in the SON files, if they have been edited for printout........ Good luck - you can see that we are all eager to help. Amy. Mario Walzberg wrote: > *[Notator SL mailing list]* > > Dear reader, > > Could you PLEASE help me? > I have some diskettes with .SON files on them. They were made on an > ATARI 1040 ST/FM, with Notator and Creator 3.1. > > Now, here's my problem: > I only have a Windows pc (WIN98) with several MIDI programs on it. > I can't read the diskettes with Explorer or MS-DOS as they were formatted by > the > ATARI. On top of that my MIDI programms can't read .SON files > I know nothing of ATARI, just that the files that I have on the diskettes > are so beautifull and unique. My late brother gave them to me, and I can't > convert them!!! (and I don't have an ATARI). > So, can you please tell me how I can (read and) convert the .SON files to a > .MID format to be used under Win98? > You'd be doing me a HUGE favour if you could help me! (or direct me to a > person that can). > Thank you very much in advance! > Mario Walzberg. > > (I allready downloaded several ATARI-programms, such as Pacifist, TOSBOX, > Winston etc., but I do not understand how they work and all the stuff about > Image-files dazzles me!) > > __________________________________________________________ / Unsubscribe from the list? send the words: \ \ UNSUBSCRIBE NOTATOR to: @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ / ----------------------------------------------------------